Blue Dampiera at Bundanoon
Identification history
| Dampiera stricta | 18 Sep 2019 | BettyDonWood | ||
| Dampiera stricta | 18 Sep 2019 | BettyDonWood | ||
| Dampiera purpurea | 18 Sep 2019 | Boobook38 |
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User's notes
leaves look a little different from the herbarium specimen but I think this is purpurea
6 comments
Boobook38
wrote:
19 Sep 2019
I’ll accept stricta, that was my first choice, but the leaves are very different from the type specimens and a bit closer to purpurea, so I went with that. Sometimes I think that given the high degree of variation in leaf shape and flower colour that stricta and purpurea are phenotypes rather than species.
BettyDonWood
wrote:
19 Sep 2019
What shape were the stems? It is hard to tell from the photos. They are triangular and slightly ribbed in stricta; or terete (round) and ribbed in purpurea.
A lot of Plantnet descriptions are unchanged since Flora of NSW was first published in the 1990s. These descriptions suffer from extremely restrictive limits on word count. Where they are available, I prefer to use Vicflora to fill the descriptions out. Vicflora states that the back of the corolla in purpurea is covered in grey to black hairs, while that of stricta has shaggy rusty hairs.
A lot of Plantnet descriptions are unchanged since Flora of NSW was first published in the 1990s. These descriptions suffer from extremely restrictive limits on word count. Where they are available, I prefer to use Vicflora to fill the descriptions out. Vicflora states that the back of the corolla in purpurea is covered in grey to black hairs, while that of stricta has shaggy rusty hairs.
ESP
wrote:
19 Sep 2019
I agree that PlantNet is increasingly out-dated and unreliable. It has been consistently underfunded by successive governments and is now a sad relict of what it could and should be. VicFlora is far superior as a website; much easier to search; far more information provided; more current; more accurate. When working on the Snowy 2.0 EIA, we used VicFlora far more often than PlantNet for those reasons. PlantNet is now a sad embarrassment. For NSW-endemics or at least species not present in VIC, we no longer have a reliable on-line resource for identification and distribution data. There aren't the staff available to fix it. There's no money to replace the web platform (which is archaic and clunky). If you think this is inadequate, write to the Minister for Environment, emphasising that VicFlora is much better (and why). Interstate rivalry might be an effective motivator for action when science isn't (or hasn't been so far). I've tried to have this addressed, along with the lack of funds or a funding mechanism for the description of new species, but haven't had any luck so far. I hear that the current Minister is more progressive than most of his predecessors, so there might be new hope... In the meantime, go with VicFlora where possible.
BettyDonWood
wrote:
19 Sep 2019
On the other hand, there are many new descriptions being added to Plantnet, the staff are doing a wonderful job with the resources they have, and are extremely helpful to enquirers.
Flora of NSW, and therefore Plantnet, has a lot of the information missing from the plant descriptions which is tucked away in the keys.
Flora of NSW, and therefore Plantnet, has a lot of the information missing from the plant descriptions which is tucked away in the keys.
Location information
- Coordinates 150.313070-34.668997
- Altitude 612.9m
- Maps Bundanoon Morton National Park Wingecarribee Local Government Area
- Places Bundanoon, NSW
Sighting information
- 10 Abundance
- 8 Sep 2019 01:03 PM Recorded on
- Boobook38 Recorded by
Species information
- Dampiera stricta Scientific name
- Blue Dampiera Common name
- Not Sensitive
- Local native
- Non-Invasive
- Up to 771.52m Recorded at altitude
- Machine learning
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In flower
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